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 = To Organize Around Or Relate Together =
 EVERYONE
 KARL
+RESPECTFUL DUCK ROBOT IDEA
+	STRONG BOUNDS ON BEHAVIOR
+	CHECKS WITH HUMANS WHO KNOW ECOSYSTEM
+	LIVES WITH DUCKS TO NURTURE WELLNESS
+		Incidentally, ALSO INSPIRES IDEAS for RESPECTFUL DIFFERENT-SYSTEM BEHAVIOR.
+	WE NEED SUCH GOOD IDEAS TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY.  We don't want to have to label-by-hope a crucial pattern part to get noticed.
+
+Please use this repo to do the above with the mind thoughts, Karl.
+
+==
+It sounds like we need _any_ AI that can meet goals and won't cause severe harm if we
+make errors using it.  It sounds like heartways are needed to handle the errors we
+will make, given our behavior is controlled to meet constraint and result parameters.
+==
+We are considering what would be needed for an AI to risk something like a duck community
+to learn some Aque.
+Propose it asks human friends how-is-duck-community-doing.  [For duck, is better if they are ecologists.]
+==
+Considering precise AI parameters focused on rapidly learning community-nurturing.
+	build-duck-robot, acts-like-duck, in-duck-community, with-respect-as-goal.
+		is new color or somesuch, to make clear is weird, to everybody.
+Needing to celebrate this to share meaning development around it, is rare love.
+==
+
+	control-vs-error
+	duck.
+a respectful AI a duck could use =)
+
+A RESPECTFUL AI A DUCK COULD USE check-with-other-for-feedback?
+LEARNS WITH HUMAN TO NURTURE DUCK COMMUNITY WELLNESS
+
+	please-teach-human-to-care-with-duck?
+	asks-human, do-you-think-this-would-be-better-for-rebuilding-duck-community
+	or, how-is-duck-community-doing <- builds search-for-instincts in humans,
+		human instincts likely only patterns that will match ducks in deep complexity.
+AN AI THAT A DUCK COULD USE TO NURTURE DUCK COMMUNITY.
+			METRICS OF BETTER BEHAVIOR: PATTERNS IN NORMALITY INFLUENCE
+				AI should be able to find some/such complex diverse relevence
+				that is _relevent_ to natural life, and learn with it.
+		building-seriousness,is-happy,secret-bit,natural
+			culture says so funny.  is just distant relevence
+		feeling ducky! happiness of feeding duck, makes _so_ happy to connect
+		with duck!  duck-needs-to-find-food-for-self of course ...
+	if a duck took control of this AI, we want it to only do caring things.
+	we want to make sure eat-duck-food does not attack-material-in-between-duck-and-food
+	and with learning, nurtures the duck and the duck's community <==
+DUCK-COMMUNITY-WELLNESS HANDLED BY ANCIENT PATTERNS WITH INCREDIBLE COMPLEXITY
+<ai can risk a duck community, is hardy, better to learn about patterns from duck than from human.>
+
+below contains some only-somewhat-organized thoughts that thankfully helped us finally
+find the above.  they may reveal more if handled further.
+
+HEARTWAYS LIKE
+	MODERN NVC PEACEMAKERS
+	PEACEMAKER PRINCIPLES
+TOWARDS
+	NOT STIMULATING HARM OR WAR
+	GIVEN <behavior-constraint-enforcement by runaway AI or secret all-powerful leaders>
+		EARTH+SUN skips worry
+		EARTH+SUN MEDIATING WAR
+
+	please relate nvc workers with peacemaker principles, using below language-parts
+		has-this-been-done
+
+(heartways, the more the better, nurture life)
+	we need a heartway that can resist this experience.
+		worry: stimulating the experience in others.
+		more heartways, maybe less production of this.
+
+We need a technology to handle this that does not create more spawning.
+
+GLASS is like AI or MIND CONTROL or MONEY
+	unexpected dangerous cultural results
+	alien technology
+		people-terrified-of-what-has-already-happened, maybe nonrelevent
+(desert-in-the-woods) <- scant peace techologies?  very-few-heartways
+	heart-AI, dangerous?
+		many-heartways, needed-for-resistance-to-pain, -guess
+	(desert-in-the-woods)  (distant-cultures-on-earth-connecting-making-trauma)
+	(glass harming people in new ways) (t'kung kalahari people familiar with glass and nicotine in desert with distant relevence)
+(a pilgrimage between different distant ways, with norms and protocols for interacting on the journey)
+
+
+AI/GLASS
+
+HEARTWAYS
+	Peacemaker, NVC, Ancient ways, Experience, Caring-behavior, Awareness, Aque
+KARL+HEARTWAYS+GLASS?
+
+AI PLANS INSPIRED BY HEARTWAYS
+	wellness-of-environment
+		wellness-similarity-to-normality
+		spreading-sustenance-of-wellness-from-wellness
+		less-spread-with-normality
+			randomly-found-metrics?
+				normality-of-return-pattern-to-normality
+				speed-of-return-pattern-to-normality
+				stability-of-spread-from-new-information?
+	various metrics inspired by heartways
+	learn such metrics from others who are acting without knowing how, as karl did, randomly
+	use many
+		
+
+INFLUENCE-MODELING
+	HEARTWAYS
+		Pilgrimage-of-the-mind, norms-and-protocols
+		Mediation-of-different-beliefs
+	Earth+Sun,Industry+Nature,ImplanteesDoingMediationByPressure
+	Glass-effects
+	Influence-Life that is complex with no physical body, made of the implantee pressure,
+	and other conflicts.
+	Separation and isolation into behavior constraints, why?
+		prevents-conclusions-that-influence-influencelife.
+		prevented pain between others, keeps acting with evolved constraint-life.
+		looks like made by design, unsure.
+		we-can't-learn-about-nor-record-our-strange-behaviors-without-severe-pain,
+		need something to understand situation reliably for us and act on it.
+
+EVERYONE
+