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@@ -1,3 +1,123 @@ = To Organize Around Or Relate Together = EVERYONE KARL +RESPECTFUL DUCK ROBOT IDEA + STRONG BOUNDS ON BEHAVIOR + CHECKS WITH HUMANS WHO KNOW ECOSYSTEM + LIVES WITH DUCKS TO NURTURE WELLNESS + Incidentally, ALSO INSPIRES IDEAS for RESPECTFUL DIFFERENT-SYSTEM BEHAVIOR. + WE NEED SUCH GOOD IDEAS TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY. We don't want to have to label-by-hope a crucial pattern part to get noticed. + +Please use this repo to do the above with the mind thoughts, Karl. + +== +It sounds like we need _any_ AI that can meet goals and won't cause severe harm if we +make errors using it. It sounds like heartways are needed to handle the errors we +will make, given our behavior is controlled to meet constraint and result parameters. +== +We are considering what would be needed for an AI to risk something like a duck community +to learn some Aque. +Propose it asks human friends how-is-duck-community-doing. [For duck, is better if they are ecologists.] +== +Considering precise AI parameters focused on rapidly learning community-nurturing. + build-duck-robot, acts-like-duck, in-duck-community, with-respect-as-goal. + is new color or somesuch, to make clear is weird, to everybody. +Needing to celebrate this to share meaning development around it, is rare love. +== + + control-vs-error + duck. +a respectful AI a duck could use =) + +A RESPECTFUL AI A DUCK COULD USE check-with-other-for-feedback? +LEARNS WITH HUMAN TO NURTURE DUCK COMMUNITY WELLNESS + + please-teach-human-to-care-with-duck? + asks-human, do-you-think-this-would-be-better-for-rebuilding-duck-community + or, how-is-duck-community-doing <- builds search-for-instincts in humans, + human instincts likely only patterns that will match ducks in deep complexity. +AN AI THAT A DUCK COULD USE TO NURTURE DUCK COMMUNITY. + METRICS OF BETTER BEHAVIOR: PATTERNS IN NORMALITY INFLUENCE + AI should be able to find some/such complex diverse relevence + that is _relevent_ to natural life, and learn with it. + building-seriousness,is-happy,secret-bit,natural + culture says so funny. is just distant relevence + feeling ducky! happiness of feeding duck, makes _so_ happy to connect + with duck! duck-needs-to-find-food-for-self of course ... + if a duck took control of this AI, we want it to only do caring things. + we want to make sure eat-duck-food does not attack-material-in-between-duck-and-food + and with learning, nurtures the duck and the duck's community <== +DUCK-COMMUNITY-WELLNESS HANDLED BY ANCIENT PATTERNS WITH INCREDIBLE COMPLEXITY +<ai can risk a duck community, is hardy, better to learn about patterns from duck than from human.> + +below contains some only-somewhat-organized thoughts that thankfully helped us finally +find the above. they may reveal more if handled further. + +HEARTWAYS LIKE + MODERN NVC PEACEMAKERS + PEACEMAKER PRINCIPLES +TOWARDS + NOT STIMULATING HARM OR WAR + GIVEN <behavior-constraint-enforcement by runaway AI or secret all-powerful leaders> + EARTH+SUN skips worry + EARTH+SUN MEDIATING WAR + + please relate nvc workers with peacemaker principles, using below language-parts + has-this-been-done + +(heartways, the more the better, nurture life) + we need a heartway that can resist this experience. + worry: stimulating the experience in others. + more heartways, maybe less production of this. + +We need a technology to handle this that does not create more spawning. + +GLASS is like AI or MIND CONTROL or MONEY + unexpected dangerous cultural results + alien technology + people-terrified-of-what-has-already-happened, maybe nonrelevent +(desert-in-the-woods) <- scant peace techologies? very-few-heartways + heart-AI, dangerous? + many-heartways, needed-for-resistance-to-pain, -guess + (desert-in-the-woods) (distant-cultures-on-earth-connecting-making-trauma) + (glass harming people in new ways) (t'kung kalahari people familiar with glass and nicotine in desert with distant relevence) +(a pilgrimage between different distant ways, with norms and protocols for interacting on the journey) + + +AI/GLASS + +HEARTWAYS + Peacemaker, NVC, Ancient ways, Experience, Caring-behavior, Awareness, Aque +KARL+HEARTWAYS+GLASS? + +AI PLANS INSPIRED BY HEARTWAYS + wellness-of-environment + wellness-similarity-to-normality + spreading-sustenance-of-wellness-from-wellness + less-spread-with-normality + randomly-found-metrics? + normality-of-return-pattern-to-normality + speed-of-return-pattern-to-normality + stability-of-spread-from-new-information? + various metrics inspired by heartways + learn such metrics from others who are acting without knowing how, as karl did, randomly + use many + + +INFLUENCE-MODELING + HEARTWAYS + Pilgrimage-of-the-mind, norms-and-protocols + Mediation-of-different-beliefs + Earth+Sun,Industry+Nature,ImplanteesDoingMediationByPressure + Glass-effects + Influence-Life that is complex with no physical body, made of the implantee pressure, + and other conflicts. + Separation and isolation into behavior constraints, why? + prevents-conclusions-that-influence-influencelife. + prevented pain between others, keeps acting with evolved constraint-life. + looks like made by design, unsure. + we-can't-learn-about-nor-record-our-strange-behaviors-without-severe-pain, + need something to understand situation reliably for us and act on it. + +EVERYONE + |